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---++ IEEE P1735 Working Group Meeting of April 14, 2014
---+++ Meeting Info

[[P1735MeetingInfo][Conference Information]]

---+++ Participants

   * Attending 
      * Dave Graubart, Synopsys _DR_ (Chair)
      * Jonathan Goldberg, IEEE Professional Services
      * Dave Clemans, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Ruchi Tyagi, Cadence _DRA_
      * Rod Price, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Ray Martin, Xilinx _DR_
      * Michael Smith, Synopsys _DRA_
      * John Shields, Mentor _DR_
      * Adam Sherer, Cadence _DR_
      * Satyam Jani, Aldec _DR_
      * Luis Humberto, Jasper _DRA_
      * Gael Paul, PLDA
      * Joe Hupcey, Jasper _DR_
   * Not Attending 
      * Sridhar Gangadharan, Atrenta _DR_
      * Joe Daniels, P1735 Technical Editor
      * Steven Dovich, P1076 liaison
      * Jeff Fox, Altera _DR_
      * Sourabh Tandon, Synopsys
      * Nitin Khurana, Cadence _DR_
      * Krista Gluchoski, IEEE Professional Services
      * Dmitry Melnick, Aldec _DRA_
      * Stan Krolikoski, Cadence (DASC Chair)
      * Parminder Gill, Synopsys _DRA_
---+++ Agenda

   1 Determine Quorum
   1 [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]]
   1 Approve agenda
   1 Approval of Previous Meeting minutes
   1 Guests and new members
   1 Action Item Review
   1 Liaison Reports
   1 MEC and ballot pool status
   1 Schedule
   1 General Status
   1 Front matter
   1 Interoperability
   1 Key Management
   1 Rights Management
   1 License Management and Reference Implementation
   1 Visibility
   1 Common Rights
   1 Annxes
   1 Work Plan
   1 Other Business
   1 Adjourn
---+++ Minutes
---++++ Attendance/Quorum

We have 6/7 eligible entities, and do have a working quorum. The total number of entities dropped to 7 as Atrenta decided to be an observer.
---++++ Patent Policy

The [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]] were offered for review.

No new claims were disclosed at the call for essential patent claims.
---++++ Agenda Approval

Motion to approve agenda made by Ray, seconded John. Motion is approved.
---++++ Previous Minutes

John moved and Michael seconded the approval of the [[P1735Minutes2014Mar31][March 31, 2014]] minutes. The motion was approved.
---++++ Guests and New Members

Adam Sherer joined the Working Group. He is a merketing director for simulation products at Cadence and will be the new Cadence DR for P1735. He has rpevious standards experience. He will be working with Ruchi on Cadence contributions and reviews.

Gael attended his second meeting as a guest. Dave G has been working on getting Gael appointed as the Accellera representative to P1735. Adam may be able to help. Dave G will send relevant information to Adam and cc Gael.
---++++ Action Item Review

Two items closed since last meeting. Dave G will review remaining and reassign as appropriate.
---++++ Liaison Reports

No updates today.
---++++ MEC and Ballot Pool Status

MEC comment status:

Some items that were pending from Steve may be complete or have different ownership now. Dave G and Steve to discuss offline.

Ballot Pool status:

Closed on March 23 with 9 participants. Pool is now balanced.
---++++ Schedule

Dave G showed an updated schedule accounting for new update delivery dates.
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"> <colgroup span="1"><col width="201" span="1"></col><col width="73" span="1"></col><col width="75" span="2"></col></colgroup> <tbody> <tr height="20"> <td width="201" height="20">Item</td> <td width="73">Duration</td> <td width="75">Start</td> <td width="75">End</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">MEC review & ballot formation</td> <td align="right">52</td> <td align="right">1/30/2014</td> <td align="right">3/23/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Finish Draft 5 preparation</td> <td align="right">50</td> <td align="right">3/23/2014</td> <td align="right">5/12/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Draft 5 PDF creation</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">5/12/2014</td> <td align="right">5/26/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Ballot</td> <td align="right">45</td> <td align="right">5/26/2014</td> <td align="right">7/10/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Review comments/rework</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">7/10/2014</td> <td align="right">8/9/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Recirculation ballot</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">8/9/2014</td> <td align="right">9/8/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Submit for revcom</td> <td align="right">45</td> <td align="right">9/8/2014</td> <td align="right">10/23/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20"> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Revcom opportunities</td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td align="right" height="20">12/9/2014</td> <td>Important!</td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

Jasper has recently submitted feedback. The Working Group eager to hear Altera's feedback.

Gael presented highlights of his review and will be sending a written version to Dave G for distribution to the WG. Overall, Gael feels the standard is good and vluable. He mentioned some concerns with secret key model, complexity of licensing, confusion with the key ring, the delegated value in common rights, lack of an overview, and a few other points. Dave G and John provided some responses.

Adam volunteered to try creating an overview. Gael offered to help. Dave G will send John's slides from the birds of a feather session at DAC 2013 to both which may contain information useful for an overview.

Dave G received feedback from Stan K, the DASC chair, that we must submit to revcom this year. Otherwise, we would need to apply for yet anothre PAR extension and there is no guarantee it would be approved again.
---++++ General Status

Review, feedback, and updates for draft 5 are ongoing.
---++++ Front Matter Status

Adam will be looking at writing an overview.

John posted a thorough rewrite of the trust model on April 3. He has received good feedback from within Mentor and is looking for feedback from others in the WG.
---++++ Interoperability Status

Ray said there are no updates for today. He plans to post updates in the week or so after seeing Gael's feedback.
---++++ Key Management Status

Ruchi has been working on updates and expects to post at the end of this week.
---++++ Rights Management Status

Dave G posted a minor update to fix an old pragma name.
---++++ License Management Status

Dave G posted a substantial update incorporation general feedbak, Steve's cross-reference feedback, dropping DOMAIN as an enforceable attribute, and making keyowner significant.

The reference implementation on the Accellera Forum needs another update to reflect the new rights block structure.
---++++ Visibility Status

John expects to post an update this week. He received some new feedback from Luis especially on child and pass-through visibility.
---++++ Common Rights Status

John expects to post an update by 5/12. There is some uncertainty based on his travel obligations.
---++++ Annex Status

John is working on visibility for annex C. John expects update posted by 5/12. There is some uncertainty based on his travel obligations.

We may want an annex D releated to key management - Cadence will evaluate John's comments.
---+++++ High-level objectives:
   * Go to ballot with delayed draft 5
   * Get on agenda for December revcom ratification.
---+++++ Project Plan:
   * Draft 5 
      * Incorporate MEC review comments
      * Incorporate or rewrite areas of concern from draft 4 feedback
      * Incorporate new input from Altera, Jasper, and Gael Paul
      * Incorporate examples
---++++ Other Business

Dave G to update web site including fixing some file permissions - low priority.

Dave G owes Joe D original art for figures.
---+++ Next Meeting

The next [[P1735MeetingInfo][P1735 meeting]] is scheduled for April 28, 2014 at 16:00UTC.

*Tentative Agenda*
   1 Determine Quorum
   1 [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]]
   1 Approve agenda
   1 Approval of Previous Meeting minutes
   1 Guest and new members
   1 Action Item Review
   1 Liaison Reports
   1 MEC and ballot pool status
   1 Schedule
   1 General Status
   1 Front matter
   1 Interoperability
   1 Key Management
   1 Rights Management
   1 License Management and Reference Implementation
   1 Visibility
   1 Common Rights
   1 Annxes
   1 Work Plan
   1 Other Business
   1 Adjourn
---++++ Adjournment

Motion by John, second by Adam. Approved by acclamation at 17:03 UTC
---+++ Approval

These minutes are approved.

-- Main.DaveGraubart - 2014-04-28
Topic revision: r1 - 2014-04-28 - 16:23:54 - TWikiGuest
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