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---++ IEEE P1735 Working Group Meeting of December 9, 2013

---+++ Meeting Info

[[P1735MeetingInfo][Conference Information]]

---+++ Participants

   * Attending 
      * Dave Graubart, Synopsys _DR_ (Chair)
      * Jeff Fox, Altera _DR_
      * Joe Daniels, P1735 Technical Editor
      * Steven Dovich
      * Ray Martin, Xilinx _DR_
      * Dave Clemans, Synopsys _DRA_
      * John Shields, Mentor _DR_

   * Not Attending 
      * Jonathan Goldberg, IEEE Professional Services
      * Krista Gluchoski, IEEE Professional Services
      * Dmitry Melnick, Aldec _DR_
      * John Shields, Mentor _DR_
      * Michael Smith, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Stan Krolikoski, Cadence (DASC Chair)
      * Devin Sundaram, Altera DRA
      * Parminder Gill, Synopsys _DRA_
      * Premduth Vidyanandan, Xilinx
      * Nitin Khurana, Cadence _DR_
      * David Pena, Cadence
      * Bin Dai, Xilinx
      * Ruchi Tyagi, Cadence _DRA_
---+++ Agenda

   1 Determine Quorum
   1 [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]]
   1 Approve agenda
   1 Approval of Previous Meeting minutes
   1 Action Item Review
   1 Liaison Reports
   1 Schedule
   1 Front Matter
   1 Interoperability
   1 Key Management
   1 Rights Management
   1 License Management
   1 Visibility
   1 Common Rights
   1 Annxes
   1 Work Plan
   1 Other Business
   1 Adjourn
---+++ Minutes
---++++ Attendance/Quorum

We have 4/6 eligible entities, and do have a working quorum.
---++++ Patent Policy

The [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]] were offered for review.

No new claims were disclosed at the call for essential patent claims.
---++++ Agenda Approval

Motion by John, seconded Ray. Motion is approved.
---++++ Previous Minutes

John moved and Ray seconded the approval of the [[P1735Minutes2013Nov25][November 25, 2013]] minutes. The motion was approved.
---++++ Action Item Review

Closed Steve's action item on updating Front Matter suibale for draft 4.
---++++ Liaison Reports

PAR extension is under review by NESCOM members in preparation for the December meeting, and all questions to date have been resolved to their satisfaction. Then board meets Wednesday. Then should hear status of PAR for 2014.

Steve and John sent letters to Jim Lewis asking for Steve to be 1076 liaison. Pending confirmation, this will happen.
---++++ Schedule

Dave G presented an updated schedule accounting for Joe's availability and estimate for draft 4 work.
<table style="width: 424px;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"> <colgroup span="1"><col width="201" span="1"></col><col width="73" span="1"></col><col width="75" span="2"></col></colgroup> <tbody> <tr height="20"> <td width="201" height="20">Item</td> <td width="73">Duration</td> <td width="75">Start</td> <td width="75">End</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Draft 4 preparation</td> <td align="right">60</td> <td align="right">11/4/2013</td> <td align="right">1/3/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Draft 4 PDF creation</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">1/3/2014</td> <td align="right">1/31/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">MEC review & ballot formation</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">1/31/2014</td> <td align="right">3/2/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Finish Draft 5 preparation</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">3/2/2014</td> <td align="right">3/16/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Draft 5 PDF creation</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">3/16/2014</td> <td align="right">3/23/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Ballot</td> <td align="right">45</td> <td align="right">3/23/2014</td> <td align="right">5/7/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Review comments/rework</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">5/7/2014</td> <td align="right">6/6/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Recirculation ballot</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">6/6/2014</td> <td align="right">7/6/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Submit for revcom</td> <td align="right">45</td> <td align="right">7/6/2014</td> <td align="right">8/20/2014</td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20"> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td height="20">Revcom opportunities</td> <td> </td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td align="right" height="20">6/11/2014</td> <td>Not likely</td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td align="right" height="20">8/20/2014</td> <td>Best target</td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="20"> <td align="right" height="20">12/9/2014</td> <td>Backup</td> <td> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

Assumptions:

1. Joe has 2014 IEEE professional services contract in place. Dave will check with Kristi.

2. Typography standards clear to be consistent and match 1076. Steve has these specified in recent front matter updates. 1076 LRM also available on 1735 private Twiki. Joe will contact Steve and/or John if questions arise.
---++++ Front Matter Status

Steve finished up front matter suitable for draft 4. Steve will look at licensing clause during December and possibly include POSIX standard for inclusion in annex A.

Steve anticipates these clauses changed about 25% from draft 3 to draft 4 and does not know of further changes that will be needed after draft 4.
---++++ Interoperability Status

Ray reports this is stable for draft 4. He estimates about 60% changed from draft 3 to draft 4 and that little will be needed after draft 4. Ray may do minor updates in December based on John's feedback.
---++++ Key Management Status

Steve reports this is stable for draft 4. He estimates about 10% has changed from draft 3 to 4 and does not know of further changes that will be needed after draft 4. John may have some feedback this week that Steve may be able to incorporate for draft 4.
---++++ Rights Management Status

Dave G reports this is stable for draft 4. He estimates about 25% changed from draft 3 to draft 4 and that there will be another 10% change after draft 4.
---++++ License Management Status

Dave G reports this is stable for draft 4. He estimates about 25% changed from draft 3 to draft 4 and that there will be another 10% change after draft 4.
---++++ Visibility Status

John reports this is stable for draft 4. He estimates about 50% changed from draft 3 to draft 4 and that there will be another 10% change after draft 4.
---++++ Common Rights Status

John reports this is stable for draft 4. He estimates about 50% changed from draft 3 to draft 4 and that there will be another 10% change after draft 4.
---++++ Annex Status

John reports is stable for draft 4. This is non-normative information and some now appears in clause 9 and 10. Some cleanup is pending after draft 4. John may make updates in December. Annex X, with some material moved to clause 9 and 10 will become Annex C (John). Annex A is bibliography (Steve), Annex B is required algorithms (Dave).
---++++ Work Plan
---+++++ High-level objectives:

   * Secure the PAR extention to move expiration to the end of 2014
   * Secure pre-ballot feedback from other DASC working groups (using draft 4)
---+++++ Project Plan:

   * Draft 4 
      * All material for technical editor is now available but given time available in December, minor updates may be done
      * Technical editor can start right after the New year and expects three iterations to reach a PDF suitable for MEC review, internal technical reviews, and the foundation for working group draft 5 updates
      * Collect feedback sufficient for draft 5 work by the end of January
   * Draft 5 
      * Incorporate MEC review comments
      * Incorporate refinements and syntax examples
---+++++ Accellera Forum:

Dave G to place reference implementation and documentation as soon as possible
---++++ Other Business

Dave G to update web site, fixing some file permissions and adding John's slides that he did for DAC
---+++ Next Meeting

The next [[P1735MeetingInfo][P1735 meeting]] is scheduled for December 23, 2013 at 16:00UTC.

*Tentative Agenda*
   1 Determine Quorum
   1 [[http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf][Patent slides]]
   1 Approve agenda
   1 Approval of Previous Meeting minutes
   1 Action Items Status
   1 Liaison Reports
   1 Meeting Schedule
   1 Inter-operability Issues
   1 License Management
   1 Key Management
   1 Rights Management
   1 Common Rights and Visibility
   1 Work Plan
   1 Other Business
   1 Adjourn
---++++ Adjournment

Motion by John, second by Jeff. Approved by acclamation at 17:00 UTC
---+++ Approval

These minutes are approved.

-- Main.DaveGraubart - 2013-12-09
Topic revision: r4 - 2014-01-06 - 16:07:25 - DaveGraubart
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