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<p align="center"> *Meeting 72* *Minutes* </p>

Teleconference, Monday, April 23, 2012, 1600 UTC; 9:00 am Pacific Standard Time

_A quorum of 6_ <em>out of 6 voting members present. 5 non-voting members were also present. <br />Attendance and voter status indicated on the </em> _<a target="_blank" href="http://www.eda.org/twiki/pub/P1647/WebHome/ieee1647_online_roster.xls">on-line roster</a>_ _._

*Attendees*
   * Voting members 
      * Brett Lammers
      * Andrew Piziali
      * Yaron Kashai
      * Matan Vax
      * Darren Galpin
      * Joe Hupcey

   * Non-voting members 
      * Iraklis Diamantidis
      * Mike Bartley
      * Kishore Karnane
      * Hannes Froehlich
      * Amy Witherow

*1. Call to order meeting 72 on April 23rd at 9:05m PST (1605 UTC)*

*2. Approval of Oct 10th meeting 71 minutes*
   * Solicit motion to approve the meeting 71 minutes
   * Mike B. motions to approve meeting 71 minutes
   * Yaron K. seconded
   * Meeting 71 Minutes approved

*3. Status update*
   * *April 23 Status* 
      * There is an issue submitted on the currently submittted draft. The key word "consume" is usedin the key word table but not defined elswhere in the spec 
         * This key word does have functionality with regards to events
         * Darren: Needs to go into next version. Darren will reply to Mantis issue
      * Structured Debug Messages and Reflection Enhancements have not yet been added to Mantis. 
         * Matan will add
      * Other enhancements 
         * Joe: Should we add something around UVMe? 
            * Matan: There are some new things here (tesflow phases, UVM scoreboard, Low power) 
               * Maybe should not be included in LRM as it is an open source and already part of another spec/methodology (i.e. UVM)
               * Implemented in 100% standard e as a library and no language changes/additions
         * Hannes: Specman RnD working on sets. 
            * Darren will work with Hannes to get this into Mantis
         * Matan: A lot of work has been Constraint semantics (order, implications etc). Now there are very clear definitions that could update what is in the LRM 
            * Most pproblematic in the past has been order. There has been a lot of work here in Specman including a new solver.
            * Improvements in lists, when subtypes etc
            * Matan to go through LRM and propose changes relative to constraint solving in Mantis issue
         * Matan: There is also generalization of "on &lt;event&gt;". Now it can be used for events outside of the current scope. 
            * Matan to create a note in Mantis
      * What is the status of a new LRM version 
         * Still waiting for last version to close out
         * Would need to submit request for new version (i.e. new PAR)
         * Then would ask for donations (i.e. Cadence to submit docs on features)
         * When is the right time? 
            * Add in the items that came in todays meeting into mantis (mentioned above)
            * Wait for a few more months and see if we want a new version
   * *Oct 11 Status* 
      * <p> *Standard has been published..What Next?* </p>
         * Darren proposes waiting 6 mo or more to gather feedback on the current version
         * Joe reported that this seems in line with guidance from Stan Krolikoski
         * Andy P. asked if there were enhancement requests etc that have come in since the standard 
            * Darren is concerned that he is not connected to updates made by Cadence 
               * Matan offered up the following enhancements that have occured 
                  * Multi-dimensional lists - (actually this was addressed in the latest version as a tool limitation)
                  * Reflection API updates - Has been extended in the current Specman version
                  * Structured Debug Messages - generalization of the message construct
               * Darren asked if when Matan sees such changes that he could submit them as enhancements requests (Mantis)
         * Andy P. asked what we should do about updates that we voted to leave behind in this latest version. 
            * Only temporal coverage was left behind by vote. 
               * Does not seem to have customer demand
   * *July 11th Status* 
      * <p> *Final draft passed last ballot* </p>
         * Last step waiting for IEEE editorial staff comments if any
      * <p> *Update to our P&P's (bylaws)* </p>
         * Darren made the required updates based on the DASC updates
         * Darren G. proposes a verbal Ballot during the meeting to accept
         * Yaron K. seconded the motion
         * Vote results - 
            * Voting members (4 approved, 1 abstained) 
               * Brett Lammers -Approved
               * Andrew Piziali - Abstained
               * Darren Galpin - Approved
               * Yaron Kashai - Approved
               * Joe Hupcey - Approved
            * Non-voting members (3 Approved, 1 Abstained) 
               * Mike Bartley - Approved
               * Iraklis Diamantidis - Approved
               * Amy Witherow - Abstained
               * Kishore Karnane - Approved
         * New bylaws approved based on 4 out 7 voting members approval

   * <p> *Action Items* </p>
      * <p>None</p>

   * *Editor Slot* 
      * <p> *Apr 23rd Update* </p>
         * <p>No Update</p>
      * <p> *Oct 11 Update* </p>
         * <p>No Update</p>
      * <p> *July 11 Update* </p>
         * <p>No Update</p>
      * <p> *Mar 28 Update* </p>
         * <p>No Update</p>
      * <p> *Feb 14 Update* </p>
         * <p>Amy will make the changes she can and wait for additional input on the issues that needed additioanl feedback.</p>
         * <p>New version will include "internal review" change bars</p>
         * <p>Amy and Darren will exchange the spreadsheet to track the issues and respond correctly to the SA website</p>
      * <p> *Dec 13 Update* </p>
         * <p>Would like to talk with Darren</p>
            * <p>about how to backup final <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eda.org/twiki/bin/edit.cgi/P1647/FrameMaker?topicparent=P1647.Meeting67Minutes;nowysiwyg=0" title="FrameMaker (this topic does not yet exist; you can create it)">FrameMaker</a> files</p>
            * <p>who should Amy work with to provide source files to IEEE</p>
      * <p> *Sept 13 Update* </p>
         * <p>Will create new draft for ratification</p>
         * <p>Proposal to create a version for WG balloting that contains change bars.</p>
         * <p>Draft for SA balloting will not contain change bars.</p>

*4. Other business*
   * *Any other business?*
   * Mail a message to <a target="_blank" href="mailto:ieee1647@edaNOSPAM.org">ieee1647@edaNOSPAM.org</a> (the general email reflector) if you were not recorded in these minutes

*5. Call for essential patents*
   * <p>The IEEE-SA updated the patent policy effective April 2008</p>
   * <p>The details are available in updated slide set at <a target="_blank" href="http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf">http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf</a>. (See "Patent related" from the IEEE 1647 home page, "Slides About IEEE Patent Policy").</p>
   * <p>If you believe that any patent claims are essential patent claims, please inform the working group. Review the posted slides for more information.</p>

*6. Next meeting*
   * <p>Sept 10th at 9 am PST ( *1600 UTC* )</p>

*7. Adjourn*
   * <p>Mike B??. motioned</p>
   * <p>Andy P. seconded</p>
   * <p>Motion approved</p>
   * <p>Meeting adjourned at 9:31 PDT (16:31 UTC)</p>

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