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---++ IEEE P1076.1 Working Group Telco Meeting Minutes - June 26, 2013, 8am PDT (15:00 GMT)

*Status:* approved by WG on August 14, 2013

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---+++ Attendees
   * Ernst Christen, Mentor Graphics (WG chair)
   * Alain Vachoux, EPFL
   * David Smith, Synopsys Inc.
   * Vipin Ahuja, Avid Technology
   * Joachim Haase, Fraunhofer (note taker)

This was a web meeting. The main discussion topics of the meeting are covered by the [[%ATTACHURL%/mtg_slides130626.pdf][meeting slides]]. The minutes complement the meeting slides.
---+++ Agenda
   * Call to order
   * Approval of agenda
   * Administrative issues 
      * Minutes of May 15, 2013 meeting
      * Review of IEEE patent policy
   * Project status and updates 
      * LRM plan
      * PDE support
   * Next meeting
   * AOB
   * Adjourn
---+++ Call to order

Ernst opened the meeting and welcomed the attendees at 8:04. Quorum was reached.
---+++ Approval of agenda

Alain made a motion to approve the agenda, seconded by Vipin. No objections. Agenda approved.
---+++ Administrative issues

<strong>Approval of May 15 minutes</strong><br />David moved that the minutes be accepted, Alain seconded. No objections. [[WGMmMay1513][Minutes]] approved.

<strong>Patent policy<br /></strong>Ernst pointed to the IEEE patent policy and asked the attendees to visit the slides listed in the presentation to study it. Nobody wanted to see the slides.
---+++ Project status and update

<strong>LRM plan</strong><br />Alain informed on the status of the LRM activities. Clauses 1 to 7 are consolidated in a new Framemaker document based on different sources. The corresponding pdf document is available in the [[P10761201XLRMEditing][P1076.1-201X LRM editing]] member-only area. Alain intends to make the mif sources available if necessary.

In the following discussion, David pointed out that the revisions of the 1076.1 (VHDL-AMS) and 1076-2008 (VHDL) LRM documents must be consistent. Ernst will contact Jim Lewis (Chair of the IEEE VHDL Standards Working Group) to clarify how this can be assured. Alain recommended to use a revision control system that allows a flexible merging of the documents. Both groups should have access to the updated documents.

Ernst asked Alain what kind of feedback he expects. At the moment, comments should be added to the pdf document provided in the P1076.1-201X LRM editing area and send back to [[http://www.eda.org/twiki/bin/view.cgi/Main/AlainVachoux][Alain]]. Furthermore, it was suggested to provide a way that offers an opportunity to observe the LRM discussion (e.g. a blog on the TWiki site).

<strong>Partial Differential Equation Support</strong><br />Vipin presented his slides on [[%ATTACHURL%/PPT1_PDE_Language_Support.pdf][PDE support for VHDL-AMS]]. There is no general algorithm for PDE handling and a lot of dedicated applications. Vipin remarked that Tom Kazmierski's approach bases on splitting the PDEs to ODEs to work on within the existing solvers. The benefit of a language support vs a pre-processor solution for handling PDEs has to be investigated.

In the discussion, Ernst remarked that we have to restrict the scope of the PDE activities. David pointed out to [[https://www.ida.liu.se/labs/pelab/modelica/pde.shtml][Modelica activities]] for looking at PDE in physical system solvers. He explained that a typical problem for PDE application can be the description of rotating machines. A last topic was how to measure the success of PDE extensions in VHDL-AMS: How many applications? Would they be supported by tools in the future?

Ernst proposed to continue the discussion in the next meeting. The group should put some questions together regarding the scope of the PDE project and kind of problems that occur in simulation studies.

<strong>Other projects</strong><br />There was no discussion on other projects.
---+++ Next steps

Next regular working group telco will be on August 14, 2013 at 8am PDT (15:00 UTC, 16:00 CET).
---+++ AOB

None.
---+++ Adjourn

Ernst thanked the participants and adjourned the meeting at 8:35.

-- Main.JoachimHaase - 2013-06-27

Attachments

I	Attachment	Action	Size	Date	Who	Comment
pdf	PPT1_PDE_Language_Support.pdf	manage	105.1 K	2013-06-27 - 09:56	JoachimHaase	Slides PDE Support in VHDL-AMS by Vipin Ahuja - 2013-06-25
pdf	mtg_slides130626.pdf	manage	66.8 K	2013-06-28 - 18:57	JoachimHaase	IEEE P1076.1 WG Meeting slides - 2013-06-26

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